Monthly Archives: February 2010

Iceland Debt Talks Collapse

The Icelandic finance ministry announced on Thursday evening that the latest round of talks between the parties had “adjourned without a final resolution.”

“Constructive proposals were made by both sides during these talks, but significant differences remains.”

Steingrímur Sigfússon


Talks between Iceland and the UK and the Netherlands over the Icesave banking dispute collapsed late Thursday, making a referendum on a previously agreed deal more likely, a vote the government in Reykjavik is almost certain to lose.

The Icelandic finance ministry announced on Thursday evening that the latest round of talks between the parties had “adjourned without a final resolution,” according to EUobserver.

Representatives of the three parties had been meeting in London for the last two weeks.

“We had hoped to be able to reach a consensual resolution of this issue on improved terms”, said Icelandic finance minister Steingrímur Sigfússon, “but this has not as yet been possible.”

“Constructive proposals were made by both sides during these talks, but significant differences remain,” he added.

Icelandic negotiators are to return to Reykavik to discuss what is to be the government’s next move.

After the Icelandic Icesave internet bank collapsed in 2008, depositers in the UK and the Netherlands were compensated by their governments to the tune of €3.8 billion. The Hague and London now are demanding Reykjavik pay them back.

The government has agreed to do so, but the terms are considered onerous by a majority of the population. Under the terms of the agreement the loan will be paid back over 15 years with interest, with estimates suggesting every household will have to contribute around €45,000.

The UK-Dutch side had reportedly offered reduced interest rates and a suspension of interest for two years, an position described by the Dutch as their “best offer”.

The Icelandic side felt that the interest applied would still be too high to be palatable domestically.

The Icelandic president had refused to sign the government bill that approved a schedule of payments to the two governments, provoking a referendum on the matter due on 6 March, which analysts and pollsters expect the government to lose.

In trying to negotiate better terms for payback of the debt, the government had hoped to avoid the vote, as it is certain to threaten the supply of international financial aid.

The referendum is now likely to proceed and a No vote all but assured.

The development further threatens the likelihood of Iceland acceding to the European Union, as the UK and the Netherlands have hinted that they will block accession talks with the north Atlantic nation if the Icesave issue is not resolved.


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Consumer Confusion Index At Record High

The latest Norwegian CCI numbers was released Friday,  and shows a small increase of 0,5 points. Still, the country’s two main providers of electronic financial news manage to present two totally different views on the consumer confidence. According to DN.no, the Norwegians’ confidence about their own economy is strengthening, but the competitor E24.no says is weakening.

“Uncertainty about the development of both unemployment and interest rates probably contribute to the restrain in consumer confidence.”

Mari Paulsrud

In spite of the recent less-worse-the-expected numbers from the Norwegian labor market, the Norwegians continue to be skeptical about both the national and their personal economic future. They’re even planning on saving more money in the next 12 month. Now, that’s really confusing to the nations establishment of economists.


Norway is a funny little country.

It sees itself as one of the most democratic states in the world, although the country has been ruled by the same socialistic political party for more than 70 years.

(Except for a few short guest appearances by the conservatives).

Almost ethical and morally flawless, an environmental frontier, (and the only people with balls big enough to stand up to Hitler in WWII).

Yeah, well, I won’t go down that road. Not today.

I will only point out another Norwegian characteristic; the ability to justify every opinion with the exact same argument.

Today’s amusing example is illustrated by the headlines of Norway’s two main financial news sites, DN.no and E24.

While one is reporting that the Norwegian consumer confidence is strengthening, the other is reporting that it’s weakening.

They both use the exact same quotes by macro economist Mari Paulsrud at the research institute, Opinion AS, to argue their case.

Pretty Flat

But – first – let’s look at the actual number.

Norway’s CCI came in at 8,7 points in February, up 0,5 percentage points from January, and up from 0,0 points a year ago.

And the economist Mari Paulsrud makes it pretty much clear in her statement.

“Consumer confidence rose slightly this month, but continues to remain relatively flat, as it has done several months in a row. This reflects some uncertainty among consumers and there are still some hesitation when it comes to optimism.”

“Uncertainty about the development of both unemployment and interest rates probably contribute to the restrain in consumer confidence.”

Paulsrud also emphasize the fact that the actual confidence is declining, but an increase in peoples willingness to save money makes the sum of all the sub indexes positive.

Half Empty – Half Full

Yet, it results in these two headlines:

DN.no (Dagens Næringsliv):

E24.no (VG, Aftenposten):

And actually they’re both kinda telling the truth.

If you see the CCI numbers over a years period of time, the confidence is getting better.

But if you look isolated at the last few months, the rise in optimism is curbing.

Consumer Confusion Index

The most confused people here is probably not the Norwegian consumers, but the members of the mainstream media and the national establishment of economists.

The latest development in the labor market has been far less worse than expected a year ago. Low rates, combined with practically no inflation and rising wages has given most Norwegians more spending power. And the housing market is back on a fast track to heaven.

So, why aren’t the “consumers” more optimistic? Taking up more loans and running down the shops? (as they’re supposed to, according to theories).

Well, here’s the real news: THEY ARE NOT THAT STUPID !

(By the way; here’s economist Mari Paulsrud’s Blog Post on the latest CCI numbers).

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Standard and Poor's: The Baltic Are Stabilizing

Swedbank and SEB, the two largest lenders in the Baltic states, have got their credit rating outlooks changed to stable from negative by Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services, which say the Baltic economies are stabilizing.

“The Baltic states are about to emerge from their recent sharp economic correction.”

Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services

The Baltic states are about to emerge from their recent sharp economic correction, which means Swedbank and SEB will make significantly lower loan loss provisions in the region than last year, the rating agency says according to Bloomberg News.

The company affirme its A long-term and A-1 short-term counterparty credit ratings on Stockholm-based Swedbank and SEB.

Swedbank, the largest lender in the Baltic, and SEB, the second-largest, have suffered soaring loan losses in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania after a debt-fuelled property boom turned to bust.

Swedbank reported a fourth-quarter net loss of 1.8 billion kronor ($249 million) after credit impairments jumped, and carried out two separate rights offers in 2008 and last year to raise capital to help it absorb losses on troubled loans.

“It’s obviously quite pleasing to see the first sign of improvement of our rating,” Jonas Erikson, Swedbank’s head of treasury, says in an e-mailed statement Thursday.

“We are working continuously with taking down the risk profile of the bank and have now issued some 150 billion kronor worth of term-funding since launching the rights issue last autumn, which has already improved our maturity profile significantly.”

Swedbank AB and SEB AB, the two largest lenders in the Baltic, had their credit rating outlooks changed to stable from negative at Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services, which said the Baltic economies are stabilizing.

The euro-pegged economies have just reported a record high unemployment rate, and economists at Danske Bank have just issued a report that says all the three Baltic nations will remain in recession throughout 2010.

The Baltic states “are about to emerge from their recent sharp economic correction,” which means Swedbank and SEB will make “significantly lower” loan loss provisions in the region than last year, S&P’s says in the statement.

The company affirme its A long-term and A-1 short-term counterparty credit ratings on Stockholm-based Swedbank and SEB.

The other two “Big Baltic Boomers”, danish Nordea Bank and Norwegian DnB NOR, is not mentioned.

Wonder why?


Sources:

Bloomberg News

Baltic Business News

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